Comments on: When Hipster Racism Fails: Rihanna Labeled the “Ultimate Niggabitch” by Dutch Magazine http://www.rippdemup.com/race-article/when-hipster-racism-fails-rihanna-labeled-the-ultimate-niggabitch-by-dutch-magazine/ Politics, Race, & Culture Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.3 By: TiffJ http://www.rippdemup.com/race-article/when-hipster-racism-fails-rihanna-labeled-the-ultimate-niggabitch-by-dutch-magazine/#comment-3112 Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:16:00 +0000 http://rippdemup.com/?p=3523#comment-3112 They don’t have stereotypes for Black women? o_O Oh please, with the delusions.

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By: Mommaused2say http://www.rippdemup.com/race-article/when-hipster-racism-fails-rihanna-labeled-the-ultimate-niggabitch-by-dutch-magazine/#comment-3108 Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:14:00 +0000 http://rippdemup.com/?p=3523#comment-3108 I love how foreign publications claim “lost in translation” when the ish hits the fan and then offer up an “apology” like we don’t know this was their intent all along!

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By: Zatori http://www.rippdemup.com/race-article/when-hipster-racism-fails-rihanna-labeled-the-ultimate-niggabitch-by-dutch-magazine/#comment-2196 Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:17:00 +0000 http://rippdemup.com/?p=3523#comment-2196 They didnt mean to offend anyone. I also think they dont really have stereotypes for black women. If you look things in another countries from US perspective you usually end up with misunderstanding.

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By: Ayo Sal, Put Some Coloreds on the…Runway – Racism in the … | modeling http://www.rippdemup.com/race-article/when-hipster-racism-fails-rihanna-labeled-the-ultimate-niggabitch-by-dutch-magazine/#comment-1337 Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:12:49 +0000 http://rippdemup.com/?p=3523#comment-1337 […] with exotic (read: non-white, African) features, but Rihanna, hailed by some as a fashion icon, is referred to as the ultimate niggabitch. I […]

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By: Deb http://www.rippdemup.com/race-article/when-hipster-racism-fails-rihanna-labeled-the-ultimate-niggabitch-by-dutch-magazine/#comment-1293 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 03:52:00 +0000 http://rippdemup.com/?p=3523#comment-1293 Rippa…I’d say “hardly discussed AND little known!

do know (NOW), that the Jews were not only a very integral part of Curacao’s beginnings – but the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade (not because I, or any other Black American child, was taught this shit in any history class of American exceptionalism or anything).  

Based on conversations I’ve had with my 83 year-old, Jewish, snowbird friend  from NY (6 mos./NY; 6 mos/Key West), a descendant of Ashkenazi Jews from Russia, and my Black friend, born of Curacaoan parents and later raised by Dutch nuns, until adopted by a German family (YES,, the three of us were definitely a motley crew once we met in the Keys a little over 10 years ago!), I now know that historically – fleeing the Spanish Inquisition – Jews, too, were oppressors of my people.  Fleeing oppression to oppress is pretty much how shit seems to go, No?

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By: RiPPa http://www.rippdemup.com/race-article/when-hipster-racism-fails-rihanna-labeled-the-ultimate-niggabitch-by-dutch-magazine/#comment-1290 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 02:40:00 +0000 http://rippdemup.com/?p=3523#comment-1290 One little known or hardly discussed fact, is that those Dutch Slave ship owners were Jewish.

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By: Deb http://www.rippdemup.com/race-article/when-hipster-racism-fails-rihanna-labeled-the-ultimate-niggabitch-by-dutch-magazine/#comment-1288 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 01:32:00 +0000 http://rippdemup.com/?p=3523#comment-1288 Annie…“The Dutch were integral to the development of the slave trade”

Thanks for mentioning this.  I’d not really known how integral a part they were until I met the friend I mentioned to Coffey up-thread.  And while some of them DO own the extent of their involvement, some do not (as evidenced by the Jackie piece) – but it’s NOT because they don’t “know.”

My friend has exhibited in several museums in the Netherlands as well as here, in a museum (in the former Netherlands Antilles island of Curacao where he was born) built by Jacob Dekker, a part-time resident of Key West, where I wrote a weekly column for the small, daily paper for a few years:   http://www.destonnokes.com/PDF-NCI/KuraHulanda.pdf.

I am grateful for his friendship.  It has given me another great opportunity to even have a “world view” through which I can filter a lot of the bullshit with which I have been bombarded over 55 years of living.

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By: Annie http://www.rippdemup.com/race-article/when-hipster-racism-fails-rihanna-labeled-the-ultimate-niggabitch-by-dutch-magazine/#comment-1287 Mon, 26 Dec 2011 22:24:00 +0000 http://rippdemup.com/?p=3523#comment-1287 Thanks for exploring the apologies, such that they are, more in-depth. They are akin to saying, “Oh, sorry. Didn’t think calling your mom a useless piece of garbage would offend you. It was a bad joke.” I don’t understand the joke part of the article, or how the ‘ghetto ass’ comment was intended as humor. Or where they got that term from. Never heard it before. The Dutch were integral to the development of the slave trade. So, maybe they should learn about that before using patentely racist and sexist language to describe Rhianna. If the author didn’t approve of Rhianna’s style of dress, then that would be easy enough to discuss without bringing a racial slur into it.

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By: Tea http://www.rippdemup.com/race-article/when-hipster-racism-fails-rihanna-labeled-the-ultimate-niggabitch-by-dutch-magazine/#comment-1280 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:59:00 +0000 http://rippdemup.com/?p=3523#comment-1280 It’s so easy to blame everything on Gangsta Rap; just like it’s easy to blame bad behavior on someone else of a different skin color. Aint no white man been my master in my house and don’t make me do nothing I dont wanna do.  Weak and useless and no doubt achievement less are the folks who blame everything on some stranger they never met or will meet. Guess what he dont give a fuck bout your skin color in fact he dount give a fuck about you at all.

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By: Deb http://www.rippdemup.com/race-article/when-hipster-racism-fails-rihanna-labeled-the-ultimate-niggabitch-by-dutch-magazine/#comment-1278 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 06:11:00 +0000 http://rippdemup.com/?p=3523#comment-1278 Coffey…I don’t always comment, but I do always read! :-)

“When I learned about Black Peter, I was a bit taken aback.”

You and me both! Just goes to show how much “broadening our horizons” is still so sorely needed in our community. Many of us don’t even have a “world view” – simply because all we know, is what we’ve been born, raised and taught to know here in these alleged United States.  And let’s face it, the less we knew about ourselves and others who looked like us, the happier AND safer those folks, who believe they’re white have always felt/feel.(http://www.cwsworkshop.org/pdfs/CARC/Family_Herstories/2_On_Being_White.PDF).

”I know we have our own race issues here in the states, but in Europe there seems to be an unwillingness to engage in honest dialogue about it.”

Hell, seeing as all their privilege, and more, their very existence is tied to those who were the largest purveyors of human flesh – for profit, I could see them being unwilling to own that shit!

”I’ve been abroad and I’ve attempted to have conversations about the dynamics of race, with Europeans from different countries in Europe and they just refuse to acknowledge that there’s a problem, from their vantage points.”

I’ve had some of the same kinds of conversations over the past couple years myself (see previous comment). However, I have met some Black, European couples over that time who see what we see – and that’s encouraging, with regard to that “chorus” you mentioned.

” I mean, professional soccer players of color can’t even co-exist comfortably with encountering verbal abuse and racial epithets off (and on) the field! FIFA’s president refuses to grasp the seriousness of the problem.”

FIFA’s Blatter, with his “handshakes solve all” is the epitome of that feigned, European brain-numbness you touched on earlier.  And even though many Europeans said he should resign – he’s still there!

” I really hope your friend is successful w/ his Black History center!”

Thanks for your support on that – really.  I know him, and he won’t settle for anything less!

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