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Leslie Jones’ SNL Slavery Rape Joke Was Very Funny & Profound

I don’t watch SNL (Saturday Night Live). Unlike when running the streets and clubbing was my thing, at my age, I can’t even stay awake long enough to get past the 10 o’clock news on a Saturday night. But thanks to Kimberly Foster over at For Harriet, I found out that SNL has finally hired a couple black comediennes after some protest from the black community. However, as black women empowerment and equality would have it, the sisters aren’t too happy with one of SNL’s recent hires now.

This from For Harriet:

For years many of us called on Saturday Night Live‘ to add a Black woman to its cast. Sasheer Zamata was hired as a cast member in January and LaKendra Tookes and Leslie Jones joined the writer’s room. But unfortunately it seems the presence of Black women’s bodies has only emboldened the long-running variety show to make tasteless jokes that they otherwise would have avoided.

 

[...] Leslie Jones was featured in a disgusting segment in which she proudly asserts that she would have been picked 1st in the slave draft. “Back in the slave days, I woulda never been single,” she explained. “I’m 6 feet tall and I’m strong. I mean look at me. I’m a Mandingo.”

Let’s remember that Leslie is joking about the habitual rape of enslaved women. The callousness with which that history is treated is absolutely horrifying.

Check out the video of the skit below:

So I guess you’re wondering how I might feel about this one. With me being the ever-present professional racism chaser, you’re probably waiting for me to blast SNL and throw Jones into the slave-catcher category for their slave joke. If that’s what you’re waiting for, please, don’t hold your breath. The truth is that I found the skit to be hilarious. I thought it was excellently written and delivered.

Unfortunately, Kimberly Foster (and, many people on the Tweeters) didn’t “get” the joke. Which really sucks because I love For Harriet and all that it stands for and represents. As I see it, the commentary by Jones in the skit speaks to the plight of women in America. That would be, that black women in America were valued more throughout slavery than they are today by dominant culture, ergo, the shit they often take from black men. But I suppose this isn’t true and all is hunky-dory for sisters.

Leslie Jones

Leslie Jones

Real talk: Black women weren’t viewed as bitches and hoes during slavery (as they are today through the lens of pop culture and hip-hop); nor were they treated as such by black men (and society at large) back then. There was no “angry black woman” trope; or a cast of “angry black women” on reality teevee being accepted by mostly black women who abhor the stereotype. And as paradoxical as this may be, a 6′ 2″ dark-skinned black woman who looks like Leslie Jones still isn’t getting any love from black men or society at large thanks to White Supremacy and its insidious relationship with the world. I didn’t make that up; it’s the way it is, folks.

To be clear, there’s nothing funny about slavery (even though I’m sure slaves shared and occasional laugh or two on good days). Neither is there anything funny about rape or forced copulation in the interest of breeding, during slavery. However, a very cleverly written and delivered joke with a play on words helps to convey (and magnify) the tragedy that was the inhumane institution of slavery in America, the Caribbean, and elsewhere. Not to get too deep into defending comedy, but the ability to take the pain of slavery — or any pain for that matter — and deliver these truths as an indictment of “whiteness” is something as a writer and person of color, that I greatly appreciate.

After all, context is everything, yes?

While it’s cool that Lupita Nyong’o was named as the most beautiful person of 2014 — a title well deserved worth celebrating –by People Magazine. The truth is that as token-ish as it may be for Lupita to grace the cover of People, like it or not, most women who look like her are not deemed aesthetically pleasing relative to European standards of beauty today. Yes, it is the very reason Lupita’s emergence in Hollywood has been necessary, welcomed, and appreciated mostly by women of color.

But let’s be real: During slavery, for black women, their utility as the giver of life to more would-be slaves determined much of their worth to slave masters. As such, a woman like Jones would in fact be a prime specimen for breeding as needed by plantation owners. Jones isn’t lying nor did she make that up. What she did do was speak an uncomfortable truth often overlooked or accepted by dominant culture. Which is funny in and of itself when you consider that a black woman having children out-of-wedlock today is seen as the scourge of society. So much so that this narrative is used to justify very regressive political policy by lawmakers.

(It’s the reason a Clivern Bundy can question whether blacks were better off during slavery)

But of course in today’s culture of social media “monkey see monkey do” outrage, the message of the bit is lost on many. Which if you’re black and you don’t agree with the prevailing consensus that this isn’t funny, your hair automatically becomes straight and you mysteriously lose some of your rhythm along with the ability to not fall when running in scary movies.

But hey, maybe I’m wrong about all of this and Kimberly Foster and others are correct. Perhaps these aren’t the type of jokes to be told in the company of white folks (truthfully, I think that’s the real problem folks are having with this). I’d really love to hear your thoughts on this in the comment section below. But do remember, I am the same guy who laughed just like the rest of black America laughed when Eddie Murphy sang “Kill The White People” in an SNL skit back in the day. Yes, and as a humorist my motto is that if you’re not laughing then you’re not paying attention. So for me, the question here is, why are we celebrating Lupita?

SNL-Leslie-Jones-Slavery-Joke (1)More to the point: How many black women that look like Leslie Jones are getting significant movie roles and winning Oscars?

Yep, it’s called tragicomedy, folks.

 

Note: Click here to read the followup to this post written from a black woman’s perspective.

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Published on: May 5, 2014

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  • http://www.blackalogy.com/ A. S. Williams

    Black women’s value in slavery time was financially higher. Yes. However, the value of what we could produce is what was important. Our value wasn’t so much that we still were without the same abuse we go thru today. We were valued b/c we were property. I didn’t find her skit funny. Knowing what my ancestors have gone thru..not in general, but my own ancestors, I just can’t find this funny. The joke being that she would have a man every 9 months to give her a baby is lost on the truth that the baby could be sold soon after. Forever taken away from it’s mother.

    Sure in today’s society, black women are not as valued as our counterparts. But the important thing is do we value ourselves. I do. The solution is to stop subscribing to what you’ve been fed.

    I’m all for thought provoking articles, jokes and whatever. I just didn’t find this thought provoking. I found it not funny and a weird attempt at trying to say “I’d have a man in slavery”. Having a man forced upon you during slavery can’t be better than having no man in 2014.

    • David Dickinson

      If you really believe Jones was trying to say “I’d have a man in slavery and it would be better than having no man today”, then you missed the joke. Perhaps that’s the real problem here. I think a lot of people are taking themselves too seriously. It’s the issue that’s serious and needs attention, not your feelings about it. If you want to help solve the problem, the first thing you should do is get over yourself. The first thing you can do is apologize for lying. Obviously, you did find this article thought-provoking.

      • http://www.blackalogy.com/ A. S. Williams

        The joke and her later explanation of it indicated that she seemed bothered by today’s idea of beauty and that in slavery days she would be valued. The joke wasn’t funny or thought provoking and this article is thought provoking (which is why I commented). My statement wasn’t clear before.

        • David Dickinson

          Then I didn’t understand what you said, and I apologize for accusing you of lying.

    • http://rippdemup.com/ RiPPa

      One question: What have I been “fed,” and how do you know that I’ve digested it?

  • ok

    This article is terrible. Black women have been seen as “bitches and hoes” for centuries, that’s why colonialists were quick to mutilate our bodies, fetishize us, and rape us. Black women have been objectified and dehumanized for as long as we’ve been in this country, regardless of what rapper is pouring champagne down our shirts or shaking our asses in videos. If y’all really wanna be satirical, accept all of the discussion that results from it instead of calling dissenting voices “stupid,” “idiots” and people who “need to get a life.” When people lash out over something this serious because the conversation is going left, it really makes me wonder if they really do care about their community and education, or just want us to be complacent and laugh at something so gruesome, even though the joke made no sense contextually.

    • David Dickinson

      You’re absolutely right. Black women have been abused for centuries. I just don’t think that the poison of continuous anger and fear about it is healthy. I’m a white guy who thinks he’s smarter than he really is, and I’m pissed that the world isn’t the way it should be. If I hadn’t learned to laugh at myself, I’d have cut my throat long ago, and I’d probably have taken a few others with me.

      Far from being terrible, I think this was a good article. After all, it got you to expose your bitterness. Now, hopefully, you can take a look at it and see if you can find a way to get some happiness into your life.

      Perhaps Leslie Jones’ bit /was/ funny, but you just didn’t get the joke. You might consider that as a possibility. It happens, sometimes, y’know?

    • http://rippdemup.com/ RiPPa

      When did this become something about Jones caring for the community? She spoke about her personal experience; and, whether you like it or not, her experience has nothing to do with “having to care for” the black community. How can you invalidate her experience? Seriously, it’s almost like being discriminated against and then trying to tell your story to a white person and them not believing you. Think on that for a few and then get back to me and tell me how that would make you feel.

      • ok

        Did you read my comment at all? I said people of her race were leaving her comments about how the sketch made them feel, many of them also dark-skinned black women who wouldn’t be seen as conventionally attractive, and she just called them stupid. She didn’t have any kind of discourse that was in keeping of someone her age, just called people names. I only saw one comment she replied to where they called her ugly or fat, yet all the good comments were shot down as well. She’s invalidating everyone else’s experiences with these responses. You can kiss her ass if you want to but the conversation was one-sided and she only acknowledges people who thought it was hilarious or pulled all these straws out of the air to find some contextual sense to the sketch. Women like me and Leslie have been ugly “bitches and hoes” for centuries and we’re just as “worthless” in the eyes of society now as when we were getting systematically raped by slave owners ahahaha.

        • http://rippdemup.com/ RiPPa

          I seriously doubt whether women who looked like her (or who may have internalized body type issues) took the time to slam her on Twitter. I’m sure that they would “get” the joke and there’d be no need to condemn her. That said, her response and however it was received and perceived only seems to be a problem for people like you who didn’t “get” the joke. What did you expect her to do? Hold a seminar in 140 characters to make you feel better? Nobody has timne for that. Besides, she is a comedian and not a sociologist; nor is she an academic. She owes nobody a damn thing in my eye. Get out of your feelings and learn to laugh a bit. It’s She was being bombarded by hundreds of people on Twitter and she responded gwnwrally.

  • nomadfiles

    great article

    • http://rippdemup.com/ RiPPa

      Glad you enjoyed it!

      Thanks!

  • http://theurbanpolitico.com/ Shady Grady

    I just didn’t find it funny. People can make transgressive jokes (Sarah Silverman and her “Jewish girl being raped by a doctor being a mixed blessing”) but the subject matter and Jones’ delivery didn’t work for me. Talking about how she’d have a man in slavery is like a Jewish woman saying that the gas showers were great places to meet people. There are very very few people who could pull that off and Jones is not among them. She has pain about being rejected? That’s real life. Lots of people get rejected every day without invoking slavery as being a step up for them romantically.

    • http://rippdemup.com/ RiPPa

      I think what you’re missing is that Jones’ liived experience, isn’t foreign to many black women. And it is that way based on unspoken societal rules and norms. Honestly, if Jones was a girl from my old neighborhood, I could see her being the one girl who was cool with all the guys and seen as one of the guys and nothing more. For a woman, this isn’t a comfortable reality. What I appreciate is that she used her craft to convey this truth which so few are willing to acknowledge. Viewed in the context of Lupita being billed by People as the “Most Beautiful Person”, the joke makes complete sense to me.

  • David Dickinson

    I laughed at Eddie Murphy’s skit even though I’m white. After all, there’s a lot about me and about white culture that’s laughable. I also laugh at jokes about “white trash”, especially when they’re about those mullet-headed, shirtless and skinny white boys who are always getting arrested on Cops. The only reason I’m not one of them is that I was born to parents who gave me a good education. I was just lucky.

    I have to laugh about that.

    But here’s where it gets tricky: I also laughed at Chris Rock’s “Black People vs. Niggaz” bit.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4

    I could imagine a “White People vs. White Trash” bit exactly like it, but the first time I heard that it, I wasn’t sure if I was allowed to laugh at it. After all, it had /that word/ in it. You know, the word that black people are allowed to say but that white people aren’t allowed to use for any reason whatsoever, even if it’s to talk about that word. I go along with it, too — partly out of guilt that I’ve occasionally been less than militantly condemning when a racist has said something stupid in my presence, and partly because I’m pissed that racism still exists.

    But being fearful and angry all the time isn’t healthy. Leslie Jones helped me enjoy being pissed that racism still exists. She played on every stereotype in the book — and I didn’t take her seriously for a second. After all, it would be ridiculous to think she’d actually have enjoyed living as a slave — unless, of course, Bundy was right. But he’s an idiot, and his own caricature, and I find that laughing at idiots like him is the best way to convey my disdain of them. Jones just helped make that laughter more enjoyable.

    • http://rippdemup.com/ RiPPa

      Thank you for your well thought out and honest comment. I didn’t express this in the piece I wrote (I didn’t want to distract anyone) but I’m of the opinion that a joke can be made of any situation. The trick, however, is to do it right — yes, not all jokes are funny. And I don’t say this as a hunorist and lover of comedy. But instead, as a human being who firmly beliecves that life is too short to take ourselves as seriously as many people do.

      Again, thanks for your feedback.

      • David Dickinson

        At the end of her skit, I wanted so much to be able to buy Jones a beef bowl. In fact, I’d give her anything she wants. Wow! What a woman! (Besides, if she really wanted something from me, there’s a good chance she could beat the crap out of me if I refused her.)

  • Mary Burrell

    Hated it.

  • Sharra Bucher Goddard

    I thought it was hilarious, and my husband and I were laughing our asses off. She was so refreshing on SNL. ( an actual FUNNY Weekend Update guest bit) Also, it led to a discussion between my husband and I about racial awareness and we dearly hope she keeps her job at SNL. Looking forward to more avant-garde comedy from this hysterical and Useful woman!